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[GSoC Mentors] After GSoC ... Semester of Code!
R***@krugs.de
2014-09-02 07:15:05 UTC
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Maybe something for LyX to participate?

Cheers,

Rainer


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From: Scott Wilson <***@gmail.com>
Date: 29 August 2014 13:35
Subject: [GSoC Mentors] After GSoC ... Semester of Code!
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Hi everyone,

Just to let you know that Semester of Code is now open for
registration. This is a programme that gets students involved in open
source projects for course credit or as a contribution to their final
year or masters projects. Its inspired by GSoC (hence the name), but
is organised by a small consortium of companies and organisations
based in the EU.

If you didn't get any takers for some of the ideas you put up for GSoC
this year, or didn't have enough slots, this could be a good
opportunity to give it another shot. Or you may have come up with more
work that would suit a student project.

There are more details on how you get involved as a project here:

http://osswatch.jiscinvolve.org/wp/2014/08/06/vals-semester-of-code-open-for-project-idea-submissions/

You need to register your organisation by the 12th of September. There
are no application requirements or financial considerations for this
pilot programme.

There is also a FAQ page for the programme here: http://semesterofcode.com/?p=22

If you've got any questions, feel free to email me off-list.

Cheers,

- Scott

http://www.oss-watch.ac.uk
***@gmail.com
***@apache.org
http://scottbw.wordpress.com
@scottbw

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Liviu Andronic
2014-09-02 07:39:21 UTC
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Post by R***@krugs.de
Maybe something for LyX to participate?
This sounds very interesting, and I guess Stefano and I could take
care of the application paperwork (so to speak), but for the usual
question on mentor availability.

So, mentors, would you be interested/available for this programme? If
you would entertain this, now is the time to raise your hand.

Regards,
Liviu
Post by R***@krugs.de
Cheers,
Rainer
---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: 29 August 2014 13:35
Subject: [GSoC Mentors] After GSoC ... Semester of Code!
To: Google Summer of Code Mentors List
Hi everyone,
Just to let you know that Semester of Code is now open for
registration. This is a programme that gets students involved in open
source projects for course credit or as a contribution to their final
year or masters projects. Its inspired by GSoC (hence the name), but
is organised by a small consortium of companies and organisations
based in the EU.
If you didn't get any takers for some of the ideas you put up for GSoC
this year, or didn't have enough slots, this could be a good
opportunity to give it another shot. Or you may have come up with more
work that would suit a student project.
http://osswatch.jiscinvolve.org/wp/2014/08/06/vals-semester-of-code-open-for-project-idea-submissions/
You need to register your organisation by the 12th of September. There
are no application requirements or financial considerations for this
pilot programme.
There is also a FAQ page for the programme here: http://semesterofcode.com/?p=22
If you've got any questions, feel free to email me off-list.
Cheers,
- Scott
http://www.oss-watch.ac.uk
http://scottbw.wordpress.com
@scottbw
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Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
2014-09-02 07:59:52 UTC
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Post by Liviu Andronic
Post by R***@krugs.de
Maybe something for LyX to participate?
This sounds very interesting, and I guess Stefano and I could take
care of the application paperwork (so to speak), but for the usual
question on mentor availability.
So, mentors, would you be interested/available for this programme? If
you would entertain this, now is the time to raise your hand.
Well, considering that the code from our first GSoC has not landed yet,
I wonder whether we can handle all this load.

OTOH, if we can have projects more akin to code cleanup (that are not
accepted by GSoC), they may be more directly useful.

JMarc
stefano franchi
2014-09-02 14:51:13 UTC
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I
Post by Liviu Andronic
Post by R***@krugs.de
Maybe something for LyX to participate?
This sounds very interesting, and I guess Stefano and I could take
care of the application paperwork (so to speak), but for the usual
question on mentor availability.
So, mentors, would you be interested/available for this programme? If
you would entertain this, now is the time to raise your hand.
Well, considering that the code from our first GSoC has not landed yet, I
wonder whether we can handle all this load.
OTOH, if we can have projects more akin to code cleanup (that are not
accepted by GSoC), they may be more directly useful.
Agreed. Speaking about the recently concluded GSOC, I think it will take
quite some time to integrate the (overall positive) results into LyX.
I'm willing to help out with admin duties, however, if there is some
mentoring interest among the devs.

Cheers,

Stefano
JMarc
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Liviu Andronic
2014-09-04 13:32:50 UTC
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Post by Liviu Andronic
So, mentors, would you be interested/available for this programme? If
you would entertain this, now is the time to raise your hand.
Well, considering that the code from our first GSoC has not landed yet, I
wonder whether we can handle all this load.
OTOH, if we can have projects more akin to code cleanup (that are not
accepted by GSoC), they may be more directly useful.
I've been reading their FAQ and this came up:

http://semesterofcode.com/?p=22
"Do Semester of Code projects have to involve writing code?

Generally, student projects at our partner institutions involve
programming, so projects with this focus will be most popular and
relevant. However, projects involving other areas of software
engineering are acceptable, including system design, quality
evaluation, testing, documentation, translation etc.
Guidelines for submitting project ideas will be provided when the idea
submission period launches."

So code-cleanup and similar tasks could be acceptable for this programme.

http://osswatch.jiscinvolve.org/wp/2014/08/06/vals-semester-of-code-open-for-project-idea-submissions/
"The project should take about 3 months to complete. Please bear in
mind that it’s better to start with a smaller project that can be
extended if your student proves to be capable rather than have an
over-ambitious idea which can’t be completed in time."

They seem to recommend smaller tasks rather than big, difficult projects.

Some interesting differences from GSoC:
- Students are not payed, but their work on the FOSS project counts
towards academic credits.
- In addition to the mentor and the student, there is also the
academic supervisor (should simplify the mentor's task of keeping the
student in check)
- It seems to me that this programme is more focused on getting
students tightly knit with the open-source community, rather than on a
clear, biggish, well-defined feature.
- The deadlines are flexible, and to be defined among
mentor/student/academic supervisor.

The deadline for our application is Sep 12th. If we have two willing
mentors and some code clean-up ideas or a newish feature that would
require less involvement from the mentor, then we still have the time
to require at least one slot. I think it's worth a try.

Regards,
Liviu
Liviu Andronic
2014-09-04 13:35:24 UTC
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Post by R***@krugs.de
Post by Liviu Andronic
So, mentors, would you be interested/available for this programme? If
you would entertain this, now is the time to raise your hand.
Well, considering that the code from our first GSoC has not landed yet, I
wonder whether we can handle all this load.
OTOH, if we can have projects more akin to code cleanup (that are not
accepted by GSoC), they may be more directly useful.
http://semesterofcode.com/?p=22
"Do Semester of Code projects have to involve writing code?
Generally, student projects at our partner institutions involve
programming, so projects with this focus will be most popular and
relevant. However, projects involving other areas of software
engineering are acceptable, including system design, quality
evaluation, testing, documentation, translation etc.
Guidelines for submitting project ideas will be provided when the idea
submission period launches."
So code-cleanup and similar tasks could be acceptable for this programme.
http://osswatch.jiscinvolve.org/wp/2014/08/06/vals-semester-of-code-open-for-project-idea-submissions/
"The project should take about 3 months to complete. Please bear in
mind that it’s better to start with a smaller project that can be
extended if your student proves to be capable rather than have an
over-ambitious idea which can’t be completed in time."
They seem to recommend smaller tasks rather than big, difficult projects.
Come to think of it, we might even ask the student to clean up the
GSoC code and complete the integration with LyX master. :)

Liviu
Post by R***@krugs.de
- Students are not payed, but their work on the FOSS project counts
towards academic credits.
- In addition to the mentor and the student, there is also the
academic supervisor (should simplify the mentor's task of keeping the
student in check)
- It seems to me that this programme is more focused on getting
students tightly knit with the open-source community, rather than on a
clear, biggish, well-defined feature.
- The deadlines are flexible, and to be defined among
mentor/student/academic supervisor.
The deadline for our application is Sep 12th. If we have two willing
mentors and some code clean-up ideas or a newish feature that would
require less involvement from the mentor, then we still have the time
to require at least one slot. I think it's worth a try.
Regards,
Liviu
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http://www.ideasroadshow.com/issues/ian-stewart-2013-08-02
Or what it means to be intelligent?
http://www.ideasroadshow.com/issues/john-duncan-2013-08-30
Think again:
http://www.ideasroadshow.com/library
stefano franchi
2014-09-04 14:08:17 UTC
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Post by R***@krugs.de
Post by R***@krugs.de
Post by Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Post by Liviu Andronic
So, mentors, would you be interested/available for this programme? If
you would entertain this, now is the time to raise your hand.
Well, considering that the code from our first GSoC has not landed yet,
I
Post by R***@krugs.de
Post by Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
wonder whether we can handle all this load.
OTOH, if we can have projects more akin to code cleanup (that are not
accepted by GSoC), they may be more directly useful.
http://semesterofcode.com/?p=22
"Do Semester of Code projects have to involve writing code?
Generally, student projects at our partner institutions involve
programming, so projects with this focus will be most popular and
relevant. However, projects involving other areas of software
engineering are acceptable, including system design, quality
evaluation, testing, documentation, translation etc.
Guidelines for submitting project ideas will be provided when the idea
submission period launches."
So code-cleanup and similar tasks could be acceptable for this programme.
http://osswatch.jiscinvolve.org/wp/2014/08/06/vals-semester-of-code-open-for-project-idea-submissions/
Post by R***@krugs.de
"The project should take about 3 months to complete. Please bear in
mind that it’s better to start with a smaller project that can be
extended if your student proves to be capable rather than have an
over-ambitious idea which can’t be completed in time."
They seem to recommend smaller tasks rather than big, difficult projects.
Come to think of it, we might even ask the student to clean up the
GSoC code and complete the integration with LyX master. :)
Liviu
Post by R***@krugs.de
- Students are not payed, but their work on the FOSS project counts
towards academic credits.
- In addition to the mentor and the student, there is also the
academic supervisor (should simplify the mentor's task of keeping the
student in check)
- It seems to me that this programme is more focused on getting
students tightly knit with the open-source community, rather than on a
clear, biggish, well-defined feature.
- The deadlines are flexible, and to be defined among
mentor/student/academic supervisor.
The deadline for our application is Sep 12th. If we have two willing
mentors and some code clean-up ideas or a newish feature that would
require less involvement from the mentor, then we still have the time
to require at least one slot. I think it's worth a try.
Agreed.
I can help with the admin setup, but I can't be a mentor though.

Cheers,

Stefano
--
__________________________________________________
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***@gmail.com <***@tamu.edu>
http://stefano.cleinias.org
Cyrille Artho
2014-09-05 00:31:31 UTC
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On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 9:59 AM, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Post by Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Post by Liviu Andronic
So, mentors, would you be interested/available for this programme? If
you would entertain this, now is the time to raise your hand.
Well, considering that the code from our first GSoC has not landed
yet, I
Post by Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
wonder whether we can handle all this load.
OTOH, if we can have projects more akin to code cleanup (that are not
accepted by GSoC), they may be more directly useful.
http://semesterofcode.com/?p=22
"Do Semester of Code projects have to involve writing code?
Generally, student projects at our partner institutions involve
programming, so projects with this focus will be most popular and
relevant. However, projects involving other areas of software
engineering are acceptable, including system design, quality
evaluation, testing, documentation, translation etc.
Guidelines for submitting project ideas will be provided when the idea
submission period launches."
So code-cleanup and similar tasks could be acceptable for this
programme.
http://osswatch.jiscinvolve.org/wp/2014/08/06/vals-semester-of-code-open-for-project-idea-submissions/
"The project should take about 3 months to complete. Please bear in
mind that it’s better to start with a smaller project that can be
extended if your student proves to be capable rather than have an
over-ambitious idea which can’t be completed in time."
They seem to recommend smaller tasks rather than big, difficult
projects.
Come to think of it, we might even ask the student to clean up the
GSoC code and complete the integration with LyX master. :)
Liviu
- Students are not payed, but their work on the FOSS project counts
towards academic credits.
- In addition to the mentor and the student, there is also the
academic supervisor (should simplify the mentor's task of keeping the
student in check)
- It seems to me that this programme is more focused on getting
students tightly knit with the open-source community, rather than on a
clear, biggish, well-defined feature.
- The deadlines are flexible, and to be defined among
mentor/student/academic supervisor.
The deadline for our application is Sep 12th. If we have two willing
mentors and some code clean-up ideas or a newish feature that would
require less involvement from the mentor, then we still have the time
to require at least one slot. I think it's worth a try.
Agreed.
I can help with the admin setup, but I can't be a mentor though.
Cheers,
Stefano
The next three months are really busy for me, so I can't be backup mentor
unless the project starts in mid December or later.
--
Regards,
Cyrille Artho - http://artho.com/
Critical mass: a condition of the software such that fixing one
bug introduces one plus epsilon bugs.
-- The New Hacker's Dictionary
Liviu Andronic
2014-09-05 05:04:00 UTC
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Post by Cyrille Artho
Post by Liviu Andronic
On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 9:59 AM, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Post by Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Post by Liviu Andronic
So, mentors, would you be interested/available for this
programme? If
Post by Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Post by Liviu Andronic
you would entertain this, now is the time to raise your hand.
Well, considering that the code from our first GSoC has not landed
yet, I
Post by Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
wonder whether we can handle all this load.
OTOH, if we can have projects more akin to code cleanup (that are
not
Post by Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
accepted by GSoC), they may be more directly useful.
http://semesterofcode.com/?p=22
"Do Semester of Code projects have to involve writing code?
Generally, student projects at our partner institutions involve
programming, so projects with this focus will be most popular and
relevant. However, projects involving other areas of software
engineering are acceptable, including system design, quality
evaluation, testing, documentation, translation etc.
Guidelines for submitting project ideas will be provided when the
idea
submission period launches."
So code-cleanup and similar tasks could be acceptable for this
programme.
http://osswatch.jiscinvolve.org/wp/2014/08/06/vals-semester-of-code-open-for-project-idea-submissions/
"The project should take about 3 months to complete. Please bear in
mind that it’s better to start with a smaller project that can be
extended if your student proves to be capable rather than have an
over-ambitious idea which can’t be completed in time."
They seem to recommend smaller tasks rather than big, difficult
projects.
Come to think of it, we might even ask the student to clean up the
GSoC code and complete the integration with LyX master. :)
Liviu
- Students are not payed, but their work on the FOSS project counts
towards academic credits.
- In addition to the mentor and the student, there is also the
academic supervisor (should simplify the mentor's task of keeping
the
student in check)
- It seems to me that this programme is more focused on getting
students tightly knit with the open-source community, rather than
on a
clear, biggish, well-defined feature.
- The deadlines are flexible, and to be defined among
mentor/student/academic supervisor.
The deadline for our application is Sep 12th. If we have two
willing
mentors and some code clean-up ideas or a newish feature that would
require less involvement from the mentor, then we still have the
time
to require at least one slot. I think it's worth a try.
Agreed.
I can help with the admin setup, but I can't be a mentor though.
Cheers,
Stefano
The next three months are really busy for me, so I can't be backup mentor
unless the project starts in mid December or later.
As per the programme, it seems taht we could indeed choose such a time-frame.

Liviu


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Post by Cyrille Artho
Regards,
Cyrille Artho - http://artho.com/
Critical mass: a condition of the software such that fixing one
bug introduces one plus epsilon bugs.
-- The New Hacker's Dictionary
--
Do you think you know what math is?
http://www.ideasroadshow.com/issues/ian-stewart-2013-08-02
Or what it means to be intelligent?
http://www.ideasroadshow.com/issues/john-duncan-2013-08-30
Think again:
http://www.ideasroadshow.com/library
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